You gave me a violent young man. I give you back a good citizen.
Lycurgus, Epictetus, Fragment 67
You gave me a violent young man. I give you back a good citizen.
Lycurgus, Epictetus, Fragment 67
The source
"You gave me a violent young man. I give you back a good citizen." Lycurgus said it in Epictetus, Fragment 67. Translated by George Long, 1877.
"I received from you this youth when he was insolent and violent: I restore him to you gentle and a good citizen"George Long, 1877, Epictetus, Fragment 67.
Who said it
The Spartans (8th–4th century BC). Laconic sayings from Lycurgus, Leonidas, Dienekes and the mothers of Sparta, recorded by Herodotus and Plutarch.
Questions
- Who said "You gave me a violent young man. I give you back a good citizen."?
- Lycurgus (8th–4th century BC). Source: Epictetus, Fragment 67.
- What is the original wording?
- I received from you this youth when he was insolent and violent: I restore him to you gentle and a good citizen (George Long, 1877). Translated by George Long, 1877.
Filed under Laconic.
Wear Lycurgus
Blot out the sun? Good. We'll fight in the shade.
Dienekes, Herodotus, Histories 7.226
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With it or on it.
Spartan mother, Plutarch, Sayings of Spartan Women 241f
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Sword too short? Take one step closer.
Spartan mother, Plutarch, Sayings of Spartan Women, Anonymous 18 (241f)
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They're close? Then so are we.
Leonidas, Plutarch, Sayings of Spartans, Leonidas 7 (225b)
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More from The Spartans
- With it or on it.Plutarch, Sayings of Spartan Women 241f
- Come and take them.Plutarch, Sayings of Spartans 225c
- Blot out the sun? Good. We'll fight in the shade.Herodotus, Histories 7.226
- If.Plutarch, On Talkativeness 511a
- Fortify people, not walls.Epictetus, Fragment 45
- The place doesn't make the man. The man makes the place.Plutarch, Sayings of Spartans, Agesilaus 6 (208d)